User talk:Abzeronow

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Abzeronow!

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Note: Archive for 2018-1st half of 2019 at User:Abzeronow/Archive1 Archive for 2019 to 1st half of 2023 is at User:Abzeronow/Archive2 Archive for 2nd half of 2023 will be at User:Abzeronow/Archive3 Archive for 2024 will be at User:Abzeronow/Archive4

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hi, I award you the Public Domain Barnstar for your research on public domain works to be undeleted. I am going through your list. Happy New Year! Yann (talk) 06:35, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Faced with the easy choice of deleting an image or working to correct an error, this user decided that the project could be improved. This generous and honorable action represents the essence of the project. If the project had more souls like Abzeronow's, the quality of the project would increase exponentially. Luizpuodzius (talk) 02:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

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An offering for our new administrator from your comrades...

Abzeronow, congratulations! You now have administrator rights on Commons. Please take a moment to read the Commons:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and its subpages), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care. Have a look at the list of Gadgets (on the bottom there are the ones specifically for admins – however, for example the UserMessages are very helpful too).

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--Krd 16:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Congratulations! Well deserved Bedivere (talk) 16:47, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Bedievere. Abzeronow (talk) 16:55, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

congrats.... "Let justice be done though the heavens fall". OMG!! is that a better call zaul referance?!! ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ ^TALK 21:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

@Abzeronow, congratulations, I hope your addition to the team makes a difference. You are one of the very few "knowledgeable" people here. Heartily congratulations. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 05:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, although I think there are definitely more knowledgeable people than myself on Commons, and I try to keep learning from people here. I hope you'll be able to join the team soon, Aafi. Abzeronow (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

from me too :-) --Rosenzweig τ 05:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Danke. Abzeronow (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Congratulations!!! — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 18:45, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Red-tailed hawk. Abzeronow (talk) 20:36, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Entirely as expected -- very few get 100% votes! You may find User:Jameslwoodward/Commons notes for administrators useful -- it overlaps the official page that Krd suggested above. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, Jim. Definitely some useful information there. Abzeronow (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your work in clearing year-long backlog on User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands/Category moves! 廣九直通車 (talk) 10:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your tireless work fielding all the requests at COM:OWR. ReneeWrites (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

File:Premier Donald Tusk – konferencja prasowa dot. wpływów Rosji i Bisłorusi (21.05.2024).jpg

Are you sure about your deletion of this? Looking at the history and the original source it looks fine in source and copyright terms, but like the original uploader of this third-party file vandalized his own page after uploading. Please have a look and let me know what you think. - Jmabel ! talk 06:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

The uploader blanked the file and it fit the G7 criteria. I'm not opposed to restoration if that's desired. Abzeronow (talk) 06:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

If it had been the uploader's own work I'd agree on the G7, but it's an in-scope image with an appropriate license from a third party. I think it should be restored. Since you were the deleting admin, could you either restore it or say explicitly that it's OK with you if I do? (I think you kind of said that, but explicit is clearer.) Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 18:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I'll make it explicit, I'm OK with restoration. Abzeronow (talk) 18:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

1997 Jerrell tornado

I have had to renominate them famous dead man walking tornado picture because the PD rationale is no longer valid. See the ongoing PD-NWS template debate on te village pump for the reason why it’s no longer valid. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

requsting you to delete few files of mine

Hi, saw that you are a moderator here. I would like for you to delete few of my uploaded pictures. Few of these i would just like to get deleted and some of them are not mine and violate guidelines. Thanks

File:Hyttinen Jari.jpg

File:Bussi 61.jpg (not mine)

File:Houston outlaws wikipedia 2020.jpg (not mine)

File:Juno tupakka taulu.jpg (not mine)

File:Juno tupakka.jpg (not mine) OtsoTA (talk) 18:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The first two are in use, and don't appear to have any issues, so I can't delete those. Filed a DR for the third (courtesy deletion). Will work on the "not mine" ones in a little bit. Abzeronow (talk) 18:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Autopatrol request

Hi, it seems like my autopatrol requests at Commons:Requests for rights were overlooked, so I want them to be fulfilled here. Thanks, Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 20:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I did not overlook your request, I just hadn't decided on it yet. I'll reply to your request with my thoughts. Abzeronow (talk) 20:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the reply. — Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello

File:Mahathir Mohamad young.png ​ ​This photo was recently nominated for deletion, but it was reviewed on 21 August 2024 by FlickreviewR 2 and was confirmed to be licensed under the terms of the Public Domain Mark. Baginda 480 (talk) 14:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.jpg

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​Another also Baginda 480 (talk) 14:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

File:Mahathir Mohamad young.jpg Baginda 480 (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

File:Mahathir Mohamad and Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali.jpg Baginda 480 (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I've replied to each DR. Abzeronow (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I wanna try to overwrite File:Visa policy of East Timor.svg

Hi regarding the request to overwrite the file temporally as the visa policy map is outdated, why is the permissions denied with the following "You cannot overwrite this file" despite you approving it and telling me it is approved? Please try to troubleshoot it as soon as possible (asap) as I wish to upload the updated version asap. TaiwanJapanNovember2018 (talk) 12:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@TaiwanJapanNovember2018: You're not autoconfirmed yet. Just wait 3 more days and you should be able to overwrite the file. Abzeronow (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright noted. A huge thank you for addressing my concerns and for your efforts involved. TaiwanJapanNovember2018 (talk) 17:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

File:Flag of NATO.svg

Hi. Could you allow overwriting for a bit? I've been asked (my talk page) to upload an improved file (same color, but with the arrows meeting in the center instead of being slightly offset), and I don't see the point of uploading it under yet another file name. Plus, if there's a problem with it, this way it will be easy to revert. Thanks. Kwamikagami (talk) 04:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

It's admin-only upload protected. @Mdaniels5757: Abzeronow (talk) 16:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Kwamikagami I just reduced the upload protection to autopatrol-only, but make sure it's different from the ones that sock puppets were edit warring to have. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Okay, done. Don't know if the protection is still necessary. Kwamikagami (talk) 18:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections#User:Khiado do

@Abzeronow:Buenas,por favor bloquea a este usuario AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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Bulgarian Parliament files

Hi, I could help undelete these (I think I deleted quite a lot), but how do you get the list of deleted files? Thanks, Yann (talk) 09:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Dbalinov has them. Under the July 19, 2024 messages. Abzeronow (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Naval Jack of Brazil

Hi, have you moved the page of the old 3:4 file yet? Could you help me replace all the uses of the previous file with the new one? Feitidede (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, 3:4 flag has been moved, I'll need to see if CommonsDelinker has done the move for Wikis on that before I use universal replace for your file. Abzeronow (talk) 15:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@Feitidede: your request is now in the universal replace queue. Abzeronow (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I think the last edit to be done is to this french page. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Country_data_Br%C3%A9sil. The army flag should use the vector version and the Naval Jack still needs to be changed. Feitidede (talk) 18:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

File:Cameron Rowland in front of audience at Columbia GSAPP (cropped).jpg

File:Cameron Rowland in front of audience at Columbia GSAPP (cropped).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

66.108.48.178 16:50, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Bot check

It's wonderful seeing another admin doing ancient bot check reviews. Bastique ^{☎ appelez-moi!} 19:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I've been slowly making a dent in the ancient bot check reviews over the last six months. I occasionally find undetected FOP issues or other issues too. Abzeronow (talk) 20:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, all of my Deletion Requests come from my reviews. Bastique ^{☎ appelez-moi!} 21:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Undeletion request

I disagree with you deleting the costumed files at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Sahaib because I said twice that I wanted there to be more discussion on this. What happens to files in Category:Characters at Disney Experiences?, shouldn't each image have been discussed individually and more in depth. I am considering requesting that these files be undeleted or creating a request for comment to discuss this topic. Sahaib (talk) 07:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Update, I have created a request for comment at Commons:Requests for comment/Costumed character files. Sahaib (talk) 07:29, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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File:SuShi-Portrait.jpg

Concerning Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SuShi-Portrait.jpg:

Did you verify the public domain status per the source? ...considering user Bastique made no comment on having checked the source or any comment on the file's status. Additionally, the provided (direct link to some online) image citing it also provides nothing on it. The only thing asserted was that it is a portrait of Xiang Yu. That was an unceremonious closure without clarity.

Secondly, for the source, why are you using a machine translation of the title, without the actual original title? That's bad referencing.

Thirdly, you haven't read the deletion discussion fully. It concerns two Wikimedia Commons files. -- Cold Season (talk) 21:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

The style of the work is not 21st century, and is consistent with the Qing era. You're the only one expressing doubt that it was, and I, like Ellywa, found that there wasn't significant doubt about this being a public domain file. I will expand upon my close in the DR shortly. I'm using machine translation because I cannot read or write Chinese, I would be happy if someone fluent in Chinese put it the original or improved upon the translation given. Abzeronow (talk) 16:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I see that you are not a unbiased admin.

(1) Assumptions that it looks old (which is what you are making here) is not a valid per Wikimedia policy. Modern artists are able to paint in different art styles.

(2) You have not consulted the reference that you are citing.

(3) Discussion are not a vote.

I will therefore reopen the nomination. --Cold Season (talk) 10:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Your deletion of the File:أطفال قتلى في هجوم حزب الله.jpg

Hi. Before I'll start an appeal of your deletion could you please explain what rules have you considered when you have committed the action of deletion? Thank you. Regards, Oleg (talk) 04:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

COM:PCP, there was significant doubt about it being an own work. Abzeronow (talk) 16:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply, but I was looking for what facts led you as a sysop to assume that there was significant doubt about it being an own work? Thank you. Regards, Oleg (talk) 16:00, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

No EXIF, resolution is rather low for a cellphone or camera photo, blurred here vs. unblurred on Twitter, and consensus in the discussion was that authorship claim was not credible. Abzeronow (talk) 17:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Do we both agree that all those points are secondary and do not prove that the uploader is not the creator of the photo, or do you think otherwise? (The EXIF data is not required, the resolution wasn't really too low and there is no older version of this image found in any of the other sources). Plus consensus in the discussion is not present as several people gave strong arguments against deletion and we need to consider pure facts and not amount of people saying one way or another. Do you agree? Thank you. Regards, Oleg (talk) 18:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

By themselves, no they do not prove that the uploader is not the creator but together the circumstantial evidence suggests they aren't the author. EXIF data would prove their claim, and that can be handled confidentially at VRT. The only ones who wanted to keep were yourself and BilledMammal, the other opinions were either delete (including Bastique, another sysop) or skeptical of the claim (Infrogmation). You are free to request undeletion at COM:UDR, I'll stay out of that discussion. Abzeronow (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate your well argumented response. Have a good day. Thank you. Regards, Oleg (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Films by Yasujirō Ozu

Hi, You closed it as Kept but the files are deleted. Did you mean Deleted? Yann (talk) 22:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for letting me know. Abzeronow (talk) 22:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Note that the "Kept" files were deleted by @Bastique: while closing Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Vojo Milo. I guess it was a mistake. Günther Frager (talk) 22:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I guess it was a mistake of the script and I wasn't careful enough checking below the DR I was working on! I'll have to be more attentive of that in the future. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 04:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Matterhorn-250px.jpg

If you insist on hosting this version, I think you need to fix the credits.

Do you have a bug reports about any problems with redirects? Túrelio routinely redirects duplicates I identify. If you found issues and there is no report, please file one.
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Infobox added to file from the other version. Abzeronow (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

File:Coat of Arms of Walter Scheel (Order of Isabella the Catholic).svg

Template added, fyi. GerritR (talk) 20:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Merchandise Giveaway Nomination – Successful

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Happy to hear this. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 15:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll e-mail them later today. Abzeronow (talk) 16:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

License check

@Abzeronow:Hi,please check the license (File:Inflammatory pathway communication with skeletal muscle.jpg) (google translator) AbchyZa22 (talk) 08:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi, please check the license (File:Logo White House - President Donald Trump (2025).png). AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Bedivere already did. Abzeronow (talk) 22:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:please check this (File:Melatonin modulates adaptive immune system.jpg) AbchyZa22 (talk) 09:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi,please check this (File:Logo Rapid Response 47 (USA).png) AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi,please check this (File:Blue Star symbol.png)? AbchyZa22 (talk) 11:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done PD-shape but CC-zero license is at source. Abzeronow (talk) 18:44, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi please check this (File:Localisation of PRRs responsible for influenza viral recognition.jpg), (File:Innate Immune Responses to Influenza Virus Infections in the Upper Respiratory Tract.jpg) and (File:Nasal structure and the mucosal immune response.jpg) AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:38, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done License is basically at the bottom of the articles. Abzeronow (talk) 22:46, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi please check this (File:Logo Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) 2025.png) AbchyZa22 (talk) 16:28, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

 Question @Abzeronow: I answer ,why you change the license to {{PD-ineligible}} ,in the website (up) says:"An official website of the United States government" (in my opinion its a {{PD-USGov}})?? (Google translator) AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:38, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

The logo was created before January 20 and is not a US government work. Abzeronow (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Please, check these images (File:Schematic diagram of the effect of exercise on immune cells in multiple sclerosis.jpg) and (File:Schematic diagram of immune cells-driven multiple sclerosis pathology.jpg) AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:07, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 22:13, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi please check this image i screenshoted from this video abstract (File:T cell effects and mechanisms in immunotherapy of head and neck tumors.jpg) AbchyZa22 (talk) 20:28, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 20:33, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi, please check this (File:Old logo Cervecería Polar (1945) Venezuela.png) AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:23, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Hi,please check this (File:Immune Responses to Monkeypox virus (2022).png) AbchyZa22 (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Logo text Air France (1990).jpg

@Abzeronow:Buenas,esta foto debería ser removida o quedarse (por favor cierra el DR)? AbchyZa22 (talk) 17:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll close it as keep in a few days. Abzeronow (talk) 17:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Orphaned timed text

You recently deleted File:Hatikva vocal.ogg can you also delete the associated timedtext files ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

@TheDJ:  Done Abzeronow (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Flag of Syria

Hi

What do you think about my two proposal? Panam2014 (talk) 00:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

@Panam2014: Old Syrian flag has been moved. Flag of Syria redirects to the new one. Abzeronow (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, can help me upload this image??

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Gu5H3xFBds6sfvwJ/

Meetings continue in Vladivostok.

Prime Ministers Dr. Mahathir Mohamad and Narendra Modi discuss ways to diversify India-Malaysia cooperation for the benefit of people in both countries. 2402:1980:824C:18D7:0:0:0:1 10:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

That image isn't obviously acceptable for Wikimedia Commons, and probably isn't usable here. See COM:LICENSING. To use it you would have to obtain a clear statement that it was published under a free licence. That would probably also require identifying the photographer, or their employer. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

But it is come from PMO India 2402:1980:824C:18D7:0:0:0:1 12:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

We don't know that. We just have a copy on Facebook. We would also need some statement from PMO that 1) it's an image they hold the rights to, and 2) that they freely license this to everyone. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree with Andy. Abzeronow (talk) 21:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freegaza/3777758700

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freegaza/3731697896

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freegaza/3776945467

Can you help me upload this three Images?? There all come from Flickr. 218.208.8.70 21:41, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

thank you very much!!! 218.208.8.70 21:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

• All three of these have a clear copyright and licence statement (things on Flickr will do) and they're all CC-by-sa,2.0 which is an acceptable free licence for Wikimedia Commons. So they're all good. They should ideally have a photographer credited by name (which I can't see) but I would regard a credit to the Free Gaza movement (linked to their Flickr page) as acceptable, with the photographer listed as unknown.

However there are editors on Commons (some of whom would be doing this out of political bias, sad to say) that that would be reason to delete them, so they might get put through a deletion request. If I see DRs like this, I oppose them. But I'm in a minority. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I would also oppose such a DR since they are in scope and have educational value. (I also have a small amount of Jewish ancestry from the side of the family that lived in Poland). I might upload them later. Abzeronow (talk) 22:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, Flickr uploader is on the blacklist (since they had some unfree photos licensed as free). Abzeronow (talk) 00:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

also help me upload this four images, thank you

https://www.casarosada.gob.ar/la-vicepresidente/ultimas-noticias/45340-michetti-en-malasia-se-reunio-con-el-primer-ministro 218.208.8.70 05:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• That page "Los contenidos de Casa Rosada están licenciados bajo Creative Commons Reconocimiento 2.5 Argentina License" uses a Creative Commons CC-by licence, so is acceptable to Wikimedia Commons. Use the template {{Cc-by-2.5-ar}} to indicate this. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Uploaded first photo as File:MichettiyPrimerMinistroMalasia.jpg Abzeronow (talk) 21:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

2nd photo now uploaded as File:MichettiMesaEmpresarios1.jpg Abzeronow (talk) 22:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

3rd photo uploaded as File:MichettiyMinistroComercioInternac.jpg Abzeronow (talk) 00:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@Abzeronow: User was a sock of blocked user User:Baginda 480--A1Cafel (talk) 08:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For all the work you do especially for handling COM:OWR requests all by yourself. Ratekreel (talk) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy

Delete. 186.172.117.186 21:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

I need a file name in order to speedy delete something. Abzeronow (talk) 21:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

I made 5 edits only! 186.172.117.186 21:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

OK, File:تكطع راس بطة بل الكهف.jpg has been deleted. Abzeronow (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Good. 186.172.117.186 21:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Request to overwrite a file

Hello Abzeronow,

I have submitted a request to overwrite a file for 2 days now and I see that no one has confirmed whether it was processed. Can you please help with my request? Thanks in advance for your consideration. HungKhanh0106 (talk) 03:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I've responded (essentially I was unsure about request). Abzeronow (talk) 18:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Important question about my account

Hi Abzeronow, good to see you again and wishing you a great day. I have a question that I am going to ask to you about something that is related to me, this question is mainly for the administrator Taivo, but, it seems like he is taking a break off of Wikimedia Commons for a while, I did see him recently editing Wikimedia Commons in the present, but he is not replying to me or showing any signs that he have seen the message that I had left on his user talk page, he is not replying to anyone that have left a message on his talk page either. Furthermore for that, this question will be shifted to you. Here's my question, before there were any sanctions or blocks on my account, when I searched up my name KhantWiki on Google web search bar, my name always pop up with the Wikimedia Commons, but I don't know why I had not been seeing it now, is it perhaps because of the sanctions and blocks that used to be lifted upon my account? I want my name and account to pop up on Google like the way it was, before the sanctions. Is there any way to solve this or any advice you have for this, or is this normal? I had already signed my name on both Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. I would also like to share concerns about my English Wikipedia page, too. There isn't any sanctions or blocks placed on my account of English Wikipedia, but I suspect that it also appeared on Google before, when I have searched it up, it disappears, and only my Burmese Wikipedia account pops up when I search my name on Google. The most clear evidence that I have for the disappearance of my name on Google is Wikimedia Commons and now Wikipedia. I had gained enough knowledge about Wikimedia Commons as to not upload copyrighted pictures again, there are many images in the public domain that I can freely upload, I had also given a credible promise to Taivo and the user who have shown about Taivo to me, Thank you. KhantWiki (talk) 21:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@KhantWiki: I'm afraid SEO is not in my wheelhouse. I suspect that it's not related to sanctions on Commons but probably Google tweaking their search algorithms. Sorry that I don't have helpful info for you. Abzeronow (talk) 21:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Not a problem, thank you Abzeronow, your explanation is already quite helpful and informational. KhantWiki (talk) 09:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello

https://www.flickr.com/photos/democratparty/7968027278

https://www.flickr.com/photos/democratparty/7968023714

https://www.flickr.com/photos/democratparty/7968022526

https://www.flickr.com/photos/democratparty/7968021354

https://www.flickr.com/photos/democratparty/7968008082

Hi Abzeronow, good to see you again and wishing you a great day. Can you help me to upload this five images? Thank you very much! 219.93.74.154 03:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll upload what I can next week (around the new year is a very busy time for me sorry about not replying sooner). Abzeronow (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Again, very busy. I won't be uploading the first one (a DW issue), I'll try to remember to upload them this week. Abzeronow (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

These were uploaded by January 3rd by someone else so this has been resolved. Abzeronow (talk) 22:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#File:Schloss-klingenberg-003.jpg

For your information - Com:PCP GerritR (talk) 11:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I've read that thread. If you wish to do another DR, I won't interfere. Abzeronow (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The file has been deleted. GerritR (talk) 16:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Map of the Schengen Area

Please explain this reversion. Why? Nablicus (talk) 21:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

@Nablicus: Our edits crossed. I self-reverted as soon as I realized. Abzeronow (talk) 21:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I understand, thank you for the clarification! --Nablicus (talk) 21:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

COM:RFR archiving

Hello @Abzeronow, hope you are doing well. This is about the archiving of denied/approved requests of Confirmed right requested at COM:RFR. Approved/Confirmed looks all right but Denied/Confirmed doesn't. In the Denied page there was no mention of requests from 2023, 2024 & 2025. I have added the links now. But I believe since only one denied request is there in 2023 & 2024 (2025 has just started) we can get rid of seperate pages for 2023 and 2024 and include those requests in the main page only just like it was till 2019. Maybe bot configuration needs to be fixed for future archives. Seperate page for just one request makes no sense to me. Thank you. Shaan Sengupta^Talk 11:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Shaan Sengupta: The bot only archives, it doesn't maintain separate indexes. The bot is rightly functioning. But I believe your idea has a merit. The bot should archive depending on an archive's size, not "year-wise". That's something you should point out to the bot operator on User talk:Mdaniels5757. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 09:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your contributions! Freedoxm (talk) 22:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Dave Leip's as a source for election maps

Hello Abzeronow, I hope that you have had a good weekend so far. I wasn't sure on who to ask with regards to this, but since you brokered the discussion on File talk:Texas Presidential Election Results 2024.svg I thought that I would ask you. The same situation is occurring with File:Illinois Presidential Election Results 2020.svg and File:Illinois Presidential Election Results 2024.svg in that the official government website and Dave Leip's have different results. Like Texas, Illinois doesn't count write in votes unless that candidate specifically filed a notice of intent to run. Dave Leip's counts these writes ins in their results, whereas the Illinois State Board of Elections doesn't due to state law. I don't want to have an edit war over which source to use, so would there be a way to get consensus on which source to use for Illinois and even other states? Thank you and have a great rest of your weekend CrookCoMaps61 (talk) 02:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll start a discussion on this files if one isn't there already. I'm more inclined towards the Illinois State Board of Elections as the more reliable source. Abzeronow (talk) 02:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Bernard Boucheix

Hello Abzeronow,

please look again: The two Harcourt images in that DR do not have a VRT permission. The template is {{VRT info}} (not {{PermissionTicket}}) and was added a while ago to basically every file with Harcourt in it. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 06:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Rosenzweig: Thanks, I deleted those two as they also don't have permission. I definitely think the Harcourt situation is confusing, but I'm inclined to agree with your interpretation of the status of the ones we have. Abzeronow (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Commons: Why was the file deleted/File in Category:Die Elektrohand Gottes

Hello Abzeronow, I have a question about your deletion of the File:Philipp_Hochmair_&_Die_Elektrohand_Gottes,_2021.jpg on January 6, 2025 on Commons. The photographer released the license at the beginning of October 2024. Is it possible to undo the deletion? Why have you deleted the file? Pacsolis (talk) 18:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Pacsolis: There is no record of VRT permission with the file. A VRT agent will request undeletion if a permission is accepted. Abzeronow (talk) 20:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Should I upload the photo again and the photographer will release the license?

Or is the deletion reversed and the photographer then releases the license? Pacsolis (talk) 21:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't upload again. Have the photographer contact COM:VRT using the forms given. Abzeronow (talk) 21:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

User:Abzeronow/2025undeletionlist

November lasted months ago, _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 18:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I've haven't had as much time to do the searches I had done in previous years. I'll edit it to indicate that I'm planning on doing the searches for 1929 works and the rest when I have time to do so (to check for files that fell through the cracks). Abzeronow (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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Public Domain tag not working

@Abzeronow:Buenas, con respecto a este (File:Screenshot (PD-textlogo error).png) el tema de UploadWizard (public domain tag) ni {{PD-textlogo}} y {{PD-VenezuelaGov}} no me esta reconociendo ,al presionar next aparece unas líneas color gris (es como si esta "esperando" para publicar) por eso es que UploadWizard no me está reconociendo a estos tags. AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Syria (2024).svg

Hi

In my opinion, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Syria (2024).svg should be closed in merging. Also, a sock then this user attempted to remove the template. Panam2014 (talk) 15:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Panam2014: OK, I'll merge them. Abzeronow (talk) 22:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy new year and congratulations

To you User talk:Abzeronow#c-Abzeronow-20241008200200-Bastique-20241008195800 hello I wish you a very happy new year 2025! I need your help.. I reported that my files were used to obtain funding

see here

https://x.com/veronicaindream/status/1849128201928298898 Please READ THE COMMENTS it’s important (thank you)

the people concerned did not respond to my proposal to deny my accusation

for the second time these people (melanie king) are trying to hack my work as she did in January 2021 (she made my website disappear because her brother is a computer pro) she was unmasked in 2024; she has no science skills or courses, she uses her boyfriend's status to get references and she knows people; I don't earn anything during my doctorate and my results are the fruit of difficult work; I have suffered his behavior since 2017! can you please check the message I received via this link and help me prevent ALL MY WORK from disappearing?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/pdf/User_talk%3AVeronicaInDream

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:VeronicaInDream?markasread=75300252&markasreadwiki=commonswiki#c-Omphalographer-20250117235800-Notification_about_possible_deletion

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lunar_Glitch_VHS_02.png

file:///var/tmp/com.apple.messages/com.apple.MobileSMS/LinkedFiles/EF1EDB0B-73E4-4ECC-B465-57BB7FD53F33/FILE_8381.pdf VeronicaInDream (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:VerbAbz3GebDivW.jpg

Hello Abzeronow,

Krd already closed the DR, so I'll answer here. No, I don't think PD-Coa-Germany applies, because that is not an actual coat of arms. It looked like a military sleeve patch based on a 1940 military decoration, the en:Narvik Shield (or Narvikschild in German). The Narvikschild itself is arguably an official work because it was instituted with a decree (which you can see in de:Narvikschild) including an image of the shield.

You're not allowed to wear these WW II decorations with swastikas etc. in their original form in Germany, so alternate versions without them were officially created in 1957. File:Narvikschild Gold (57er).jpg shows the 1957 version of the Narvik Shield, minus the eagle and swastika.

The deleted file was obviously inspired by the Narvik Shield (containing edelweiss, anchor and propeller like the original), but drawn independently. So unless we had some evidence that it was published in some kind of military service regulation (Dienstvorschrift, {{PD-BW}}), I'd say it is not in the public domain. I'm a bit on the fence if these service regulations are official works of the kind we can accept, but we have a lot of files from them, including the kind of sleeve patches we have here. I'm sceptical if all of the files in Category:PD BW were actually featured in a service regulation or if people just added the template without really doing any research, which is often the case. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 14:19, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

OK, thank you for your explanation. There are still some aspects of German copyright law that I still don't know. I'm inclined to agree that uploaders sometimes just add a template without doing due diligence, and I wanted to be sure on the validity of the license before making a decision. Abzeronow (talk) 20:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@Rosenzweig: Am I correct to assume that File:S.Pz.Abt.506 Insignia.png is a similar case? Abzeronow (talk) 01:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Probably. It might be an official work if part of a decree or similar, but we should know which one. It's not an actual coa, and I don't think a military unit is actually a Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts, though I can't tell you right now what its actual legal status is. --Rosenzweig τ 06:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

File:The Dush Treasure in the Egyptian Museum.jpg

Dear Abzeronow,

Could you kindly review this masterpiece of Roman Egyptian art which I got licensed freely on flickr please? This is an important image. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

 Done Abzeronow (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thank You Abzeronow. I Never use unapproved images in wikipedia articles. I only once had an image I uploaded that was deleted when I was new to WikiCommons since I did not know the difference between a derivative image at the time. Now I can use it in this article. I saw long ago that this was the best image on flickr for this article but getting it licensed freely was not easy. Best Wishes, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Skyteam Logo 001.svg

@Abzeronow:Buenas, esta foto debería ser removida o quedarse? AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Logo antiguo de Rutaca Airlines

@Abzeronow:Buenas, se puede publicar el logo de Rutaca Airlines como este (https://vectorseek.com/vector_logo/rutaca-airlines-logo-vector/) si el logo es simple se puede publicar con {{PD-textlogo}}? AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Third-party photos hosted by the NWS uploaded by Cyclonebiskit

Thanks Abzeronow for continuing to chip away at these... we're nearly there!

It looks like you missed one of the files on this mass DR -- could you please re-check? (And, in case you're inclined, another one from that DR has a derivative version here. --Rlandmann (talk) 20:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

@Rlandmann: Deleted the crop. I didn't miss any files in the original DR, cache just presented a blue link where a red link should have been. Abzeronow (talk) 20:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Ah! OK! Thanks for the clarification; I'd never seen that before! --Rlandmann (talk) 22:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bandera República Árabe Siria (AI) (2024).jpg

@Abzeronow:Buenas,esta foto debería ser removida o quedarse?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Fontana La Nave

Regarding this request, thank you for restoring the first three files: these have been transferred, but since there is no PD-ItalyGov on itwiki, this caused further discussions there and additional delays, which is why I hadn't intervened in the request yet. The discussion is still ongoing, but should it be resolved, would you be willing to proceed with the temporary restoration of the other files so that they can also be transferred to itwiki? Thank you for your availability, and sorry for the wait. Earthh (talk) 15:33, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

@Earthh: Yes, if the itwiki situation is resolved I'll temporarily undelete more files for you. You can just message me here and I'll let you know when I've undeleted more for transfer. Abzeronow (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Brenzinger & Cie

Hi, can you please tell User:Dr. med. Mabuse and me, why you added particularly the year 2028? --Flominator (talk) 11:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

@Flominator: I should add more undeletion dates, the 1907 work in one of the DRs would fall under PD-old-assumed-expired in 2028 since it would be over 120 years from creation from an unknown author. Community consensus allows for PD-old-assumed to be used with 120 year old works when author is unknown or a named author has doesn't have a known death date. Abzeronow (talk) 19:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I wasn't aware that on Commons it's 120 years, while at at de.wp, those are only 100 years. Maybe we could ask somebody to transfer them ...-- Flominator (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Flominator: If you want, I can temporarily undelete some of them so you can transfer them to dewiki. Abzeronow (talk) 18:21, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Sailortown Belfast

Hello. Can you tell me why this Commons file was removed from the above article, when it relates to it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailortown_(Belfast)

I see a reference to this discussion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Murals_in_Belfast

but it makes no sense to me. I am from that part of Belfast and can confirm the tram lines have been present for generations.

Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@Billsmith60: The file is File:Mural, Sailortown, Belfast (1) - geograph.org.uk - 1308523.jpg which had https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1308523 as its source. The file depicts a mural which is not covered by FoP in the UK, and the mural is not de minimis. Abzeronow (talk) 00:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Coat of arms of Syria (2024–present) variation golden.svg

@Abzeronow:Buenas ,este escudo debería ser removida o quedarse?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

@Abzeronow:Buenas, por favor cierra el DR. AbchyZa22 (talk) 00:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I was going to keep it but Bedivere got to it first and did so. Abzeronow (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:ExpressJet Airlines, LLC - Copy.png

@Abzeronow:Buenas, este logo debería ser removida o quedarse? AbchyZa22 (talk) 11:54, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by GiovanniPen

File:Roberto Arduini EC24.jpg
File:Giulio Rincione EC24.jpg
can u give me some more information about these two files? Maybe is worth to undelete them and crop or censor what is necessary. GioviPen ^{GP msg} 14:02, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Robert Arduini file is that of a guy at his laptop, and the picture is dominated by copyright artworks, I'd have to crop it to just Arduini but that is such a tiny part of the photograph that I felt deletion was better than trying to keep it. Giulio Rincione is a photograph of a artist at work but he has his head down and you can't see much of his face. I kept two other better photos of Rincione, I could easily crop to keep it but it's not a good photo IMO. Abzeronow (talk) 20:41, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

For Roberto Arduini I think was the only one we had so better than nothing? For Giulio Rincione we actually have others so if you think is not worth is ok. GioviPen ^{GP msg} 09:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Maybe is better to blur rather than crop? Idk

thanks GioviPen ^{GP msg} 09:17, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Fine, restored and cropped. I can't blur files myself so I crop. Abzeronow (talk) 18:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:U-Bahnhof Candidplatz

Good evening! As you may have noticed, I linked you to the talk page of User:Infrogmation. It's about the German subway station Candidplatz. I suggested several images for deletion because I was convinced there was a possible copyright violation. Now another administrator has decided differently than you and has also given reasons for his decision. As the administrator involved, I would like to have an assessment from you as to how understandable you find the other administrator's reasoning and whether you stand behind your decision from October 2023. Kind regards Lukas Beck (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I can agree with one of them being kept (the first one) but the other two are like the ones I deleted where I felt that the interplay of the colors pushed it above the threshold of originality. I was also still relatively new as a admin when I deleted (I only had the bit for a 3-4 months at that point) and I didn't see a counter argument that I thought was good so I deleted in an abundance of caution. I'll ask for a deletion review of my deletion though since consistency here would be important and maybe there was an error in my reasoning since the other administrator is much more experienced than myself. Abzeronow (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your honest assessment. Could you please link to the post so I can follow the debate? Lukas Beck (talk) 21:24, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests#Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:U-Bahnhof Candidplatz Abzeronow (talk) 21:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks Lukas Beck (talk) 21:33, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Need some help

There is two categories subjected the same topic Category:Jorjadze (surname) and Category:Jorjadze. This the same noble family or noble surname. How we can merge the categories? I can merge their Wikidata, but don't know how merge the categories. Could you please merge it? Yousiphh (talk) 13:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

It would be the same surname but I don't know enough about Georgian history to know if the people in the Jorjadze surname category are all descendants of the Georgian noble family. @Geagea: Abzeronow (talk) 19:47, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

two different items in Wikidata one instance of (P31) noble family (Q13417114) and the other instance of (P31) family name (Q101352) not to be merged. A nobility category for the COA etc. and the other is a kind of maintenance for people with the same surname. -- Geagea (talk) 22:01, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Hadid Tower

Sorry for the non-answer, but I'm not very confident on the matter of ToO beside obvious cases. I wouldn't be against the deletion, but I don't know the issue enough to be able to say that Ruthven was wrong. Friniate (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Wappen Bergerhausen.png

Yes, the file is in use. But the main reason of the request was a problem with the copyright. You did'nt recognize that. I startet a discussion at the village pump, but maybe we don't need to wait for any answers there. I think the deletion request should be started again anyway. Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#File:Wappen_Bergerhausen.png GerritR (talk) 13:39, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I guess I should have addressed that in the close. @Rosenzweig: This does look like an amateur rendering of a municipal CoA. What is your evidence that the CoA is fictional? Abzeronow (talk) 20:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

All I can find is that Bergerhausen was a separate municipality until 1934, when it was incorporated into the larger town of de:Biberach an der Riß. Bergerhausen might already have had an official coa in 1934, but that's not certain. Historical towns, even small ones, tended to have one, but smaller villages like Bergerhausen often acquired their coa in the late 1930s or even after WW II. s:de:Beschreibung des Oberamts Biberach/Kapitel B 9 about Bergerhausen, from 1837, does not mention a coa. So I could not find evidence that this is a (formerly official) coa of a former municipality. --Rosenzweig τ 09:22, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

File:Karjalaan jaaneiden vainajien muistomerkki Sakyla.jpg

Is it possible to restore this pisture to fi-WP - to be show using special Finnish "sitation rules"? It is my photo. --Aulis Eskola (talk) 08:31, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

@Aulis Eskola: I can temporarily undelete it if you want to use it on fiwiki as a non-free file. Abzeronow (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Commons exemption doctrine policy

Per foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy, Wikimedia Commons may not develop and adopt an EDP ... --Rosenzweig τ 21:57, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

We already have a de facto EDP for cosplay costumes. I'm aware that making a de jure or de facto EDP would be a heavy lift, but we should at least resolve the paradox given since WMF never anticipated URAA being a problem for Commons. Abzeronow (talk) 22:01, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

File:OIC Diagram-en.svg

Hello, can you help change the Syrian flag here to the flag after the revolution? Syria currently uses the Syrian independence flag (File:Nuvola Syria flag 1932-1958 and 1961-1963.svg) in the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

Sources: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250305-egypts-sisi-meets-syrias-sharaa-in-cairo-for-first-time/amp/ https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/diplomacy/syrias-oic-membership-restored-after-turkiye-backed-initiative/amp Manilano12 (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@Manilano12: I've enabled overwriting on the file. Abzeronow (talk) 01:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I missed your comment about the Taliban and protection of IP rights

I left a longer note at User talk:Yann. You said "Until Afghanistan takes steps to withdraw from Berne, it should be considered as under that treaty..."

Wait. Don't international IP rights agreements absolutely require signatories to protect foreigner's IP rights, for foreign countries to consider the IP rights of their citizens to be protected?

As I said on User talk:Yann, there is a huge difference between intermittent protection of foreigner's IP rights, protection of foreigner's IP rights that falls short due to corruption, or incompetence, and the situation in Afghanistan where they will NEVER protect a single foreigner's IP rights because they fundamentally reject progress, and thus fundamentally reject the whole idea of an IP right.

You mention URAA rights. If you have time I would appreciate you explaining what you meant about URAA dates. THanks Geo Swan (talk) 17:18, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Geo Swan: COM:Afghanistan says the URAA restoration date is 29 July 2016 so all works from 1976 on and works by authors who died in 1976 and onwards are under copyright in the United States. So we cannot host material from Afghanistan that isn't PD in the US and 1976 and after works. URAA is an American law and so even if Afghanistan does not enforce its IP laws, the US will enforce IP rights of Afghan authors. Abzeronow (talk) 17:49, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

• Excuse me, but my understanding is that international agreements are reciprocal. Country A is only bound by an agreement if Country B is a signatory, and complies with it.

In World War 2, most countries were signatories to the Geneva Convention. However, the Soviet Union was not a signatory, and Japan was not a signatory. In that great film, The Great Escape, Stalag Luft 3, was adjacent to a slave labor camp where captured Russian soldiers were being worked to death. This was one of the many factual elements of the film. The Geneva Conventions didn't prevent Soviet soldiers from shooting prisoners, or shooting medical personnel, or working captured German soldiers to death. So, the Germans weren't legally bound by the Geneva Conventions in their treatment of Russian soldiers. Similarly, in The Bridge on the River Kwai the British Colonel repeatedly spars with the Camp Commandant over whether the Japanese were complying with the Geneva Convention. I think, legally, the Japanese Colonel was correct. Japanese soldiers weren't legally bound by the Geneva Conventions because Japan hadn't signed the Geneva Conventions.

So, from 2005, when I first started contributing to the Commons, until 2010, or 2012, we did treat all images from Afghanistan as public domain. This was not a ripoff, since they treated all IP from outside Afghanistan as if they could publish it, without respect for foreigner's IP rights.

You say "...all works from 1976 on and works by authors who died in 1976 and onwards are under copyright in the United States." I'm sorry, you aren't saying this is according to the URAA? Correct? Are you saying this is US law? Doesn't the USA domestic IP law only apply ot images taken within the USA, or images taken by US citizens, and published in the USA? You aren't saying USA domestic IP law applies to foreigner's images, that are not taken in the USA, and not published in the USA, are you?

We did, routinely, provide images taken by Afghans, in Afghanistan, when Afghanistan did not provide any domestic IP protection. I think that is an acknowledgement that US domestic laws about 1976 are only relevant to images taken in the USA.

I know the law can be very counter-intuitive. Over the years I have read a lot of interpretations as to what the (complicated) URAA says, that I was skeptical of. I'm skeptical that it applies to countries that clearly do not protect IP rights. Geo Swan (talk) 18:26, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Afghan creators have US copyrights, whether we like it or not. Respecting IP rights is one of Commons bedrock principles as stated with COM:PCP and COM:CARES, we could get away with ignoring the rights of Afghan authors, but we won't because we have a higher standard than what we can get away with. Abzeronow (talk) 18:36, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

• Do Afghan creators have US copyrights? Or do Afghan creators have US copyrights when their images are first published in the USA, or some other Berne-world country?

The WMF does, occasionally, pay lawyers who specialize in IP rights, to give their expert legal opinion on some point of IP law. It's rare, and I wish we called on these expert opinions more often. There were three stages to how we treated images first published in Afghanistan:

1. Up until 2010-2012, we treated all images first published in Afghanistan as public domain.
2. Then, circa 2010-2012, someone noticed a (stale) press release from the office of the President of Afghanistan, saying that he expected Afghanistan would join an International Intellectual Property Rights agreement.
   • Enthusiastic people claimed the PD period was over! All images published under {{PD-Afghanistan}} should be deleted.
   • Enthusiastic people pointed to a WMF directive, that appeared to say that, as soon as one of the handful of country that was not part of Berne-world hinted it would join Berne-world, images taken there should stop being treated as if they were in the public domain.
   • One of the lawyers specializing in IP law the WMF employs weighed in. As I recall he made several points:
   1. As I recall, he said that, until the Afghan legislature passed the two required bills, and started to effectively enforce them, all images first published in Afghanistan remained in the public domain. Treaties are passed by nation's legislatures, not by executive fiat. Promises from the office of the President are irrelevant.
   2. As I recall, he said, nothing restricted the WMF from imposing its own, internal requirements on its contributors, and we were free to impose additional rules on our uploads.

      Frankly, I thought he was mocking us.

   • In my opinion, jumping on the President's promise was disrespectful. I think it showed patronizing colonial attitude. It is as if we are advanced, and they are backwards, but its okay, we will cut their backwards ass some slack.
3. Years later the Afghan legislature did pass the required legislation. As I understand it, it was only at this point that images first published in Afghanistan became protected.

• Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Afghanistan#Background says "The Taliban government since 2021 is unrecognized, but continues to enforce existing copyright law.[clarification needed]"

  That sounds like wishful thinking to me.

  There is absolutely no way the 2001 Taliban would enforce copyright law.

  People don't understand how deeply conservative Afghan leaders could be. Even senior members of the Hamid Karzai regime were extremely conservative. The Chief Justice that Karzai appointed? He too opposed the education of girls.

  I am going to Google "Taliban copyright", see if I can learn anything. I'll report back.

• WRT Com:CARES... treating all images first published in Afghanistan as public domain, as we originally did, was not a ripoff. Treating an image published in Afghanistan as public domain was balanced by the enormous benefit to Afghans. So long as they did not have any IP law they used all images from the USA, and every other nation, as if they were public domain -- used them without paying royalties or licensing fees. Let's be real, the IP from the other 200 nations in the World, nations with rich Histories of rich cultural and scientific work completely dwarfs the small number of images, songs, movies, poetry, etc, published in Afghanistan. We weren't ripping them off.

• So, if it turns out that the Taliban is not enforcing any IP law? Geo Swan (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

In my opinion, arbitrarily declaring all Afghan works to be public domain because the Taliban isn't enforcing copyright laws and because the Taliban are autocratic and have a seemingly retrograde worldview appears to me as colonialist and exploitive so I must respectfully disagree with you, whom I believe has good intentions to further spread Afghan culture and knowledge. I have no doubt that the Taliban would find that we wish to highlight images and songs from Afghanistan repulsive and I do agree that spreading knowledge of the various cultures and subcultures within Afghanistan is worthy. I deeply regret that we cannot host photographs of destroyed monuments because of Afghan copyright and no FoP. But I also do not wish to unjustly take the creative works of living Afghan authors without due recompense because of the actions of their government. Under this principle, does this mean that Canada should no longer respect American copyright due to the imperialistic and harmful actions of the Trump Administration? I will respect the wishes of the community. If the community agrees with you regarding Afghanistan, then I will follow that guidance. Abzeronow (talk) 21:31, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

• Just for the record, while many members of the Taliban are cruel autocrats, that is not a reason to declare Afghan images PD. Nor would I say they have a retrograde worldview. The reason to to start treating Afghan images as PD again is that, even if Afghanistan legislature signed on to Berne-world, in the late 201x period, it is my understanding that if they are no longer enforcing IP rights, and if those who still have permission to publish, at the Taliban Ministry of propaganda freely use non-Afghan IP without respecting foreigner's IP rights, then they themselves put themselves outside of Berne-world.
• I lived for fifteen years in Waterloo, Ontario. It is the central concentration of Canada's lovely, generous Mennonites. Every single Mennonite I met, during those fifteen years, was a lovely generous person. I even got to know, kind of, some old order Mennonites. Lovely, generous. Now, if, for the sake of argument, there was a small country with a super-majority of old-order Mennonites, lovely, generous people, who did not believe in Progress, and they took, effectively, did not protect intellectual property rights, because they did not believe in progress, and if, on those rare occasions they wanted to illustrate things, they used other people's images, with no regard to Berne-world protocols, I would argue that images from that country be treated as public domain.
• With regard to "unjustly taking the creative works of living Afghan authors without due recompense..."
• Copyright, and patents, are not natural laws. Intellectual property rights are not god-given, they are conventions. Nation's legislatures Grant them. There are conditions where they can take them away, too.
• What do you know about the production of the little tiny, but extremely useful Jeeps, during World War 2?

  The Jeep was a small, simple, robust, easy to fix, easy to maintain, four-wheel-drive vehicle. Useful to those who needed, during peace-time, but a very niche market, in peace-time. In wartime there was an incredible demand for them. The allies produced something like half a million jeeps. They probably could have used double, triple that number.

  Well, it was obvious that the little company that owned the IP rights could never produce more than a trickle of Jeeps. Even if the rain their little factory 24x7, in 1939, and that was enough to double, or triple the size of their factory, that would mean their capacity was still only enough to produce a trickle two or three times their original trickle.

  War Department officials presented them with a choice. First, you decide to license your design to Ford, GM, John Deere, International Harvester, so they can each tool up and build a Niagaraa of Jeeps, in their factory, and you get the license fees... Or, your second choice is we expropriate your IP, and we have Ford and John Deers make our Jeeps, and you get nothing.

  We all believe in Progress. We think that if William Shakespeare, Jane Austen, or Sid Vicious, expresses some new thoughts in a new play, novel or song, or expresses an old thought in a new better way, that enriches our culture, that that is a good thing. We give the people who come up with a new idea, or a new way of using an old idea a way to make a profit from their idea, because we want to give them a chance to use that money to come up with more good new ideas.

  But this is merely a convention, a human invention, not a natural law, or a god-given right. We do it because we believe Progress is in the public interest. And when the public interest favors not rewarding the creator, we don't do it.

  The Jeep is one example. Here in Canada, during SARS, there was an anti-viral that the Minister of Health was told could help front-line health-care workers not get SARS. (1) If they didn't get SARS they could stay on the front-line; (2) If they didn't get SARS they couldn't infect any of their patients. So he personally phoned the pharmaceutical company that owned the IP rights to manufacture and distribute that anti-viral drug, in Canada, and asked them for a rush order for enough doses to for every front line health care worker in Canada.

  Well, this was the branch-plant of a US company. All the executives at the Canadian branch-plant were Americans. They told him to go fish. They were going to save their stockpile for the USA.

  So, the Minister of Health sent a memo to every other pharmaceutical company, asking them if they could supply the drug to the front-line health care workers.

  I am sure it won't surprise you that the American CEO of that Canadian branch plant went ballistic. His company owned the Canadian patent on that drug. How dare the Minister ask other companies to make it for him.

  But, ultimately, patents, like copyright, are supposed to serve the public interest. As soon as that CEO decided to hoard all the doses for the USA, he was no longer serving the public interest. If that drug really was useful the Minister was completely correct to try to get other companies to make some, on an emergency basis.

  I would have deported every single one of those guys, and put them on the inadmissible list.

• What does this mean for your plucky creative Afghan authors, who want to get compensated for their great new ideas? Since the Afghan government's policies don't provide them with a path to compensation, if they publish their idea, in Afghanistan, they smuggle their work out to Pakistan, or Iran, or India, or the USA, and publish it there.
• Do I think Canada should stop respecting the IP rights of Americans, because Trump is making noises about annexing or invading us? No. I only think a nation, any nation, should stop respecting the IP rights of Americans, in retaliation, if the USA stops respecting their IP rights. It is an open secret that China does not respect IP rights. Labour costs used to be so low there that Big US firms turned a blind eye to their intellectual property theft. I think that was a mistake.
• I think you and I agree it would be great to know more about all the different cultures in Afghanistan. I took would like to see all the cultural artifacts, in Afghanistan, both the intact ones, and the destroyed ones. Geo Swan (talk) 00:00, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

update

I said I would report back. I spent some time trying to confirm that the Taliban "...continues to enforce existing copyright law." My Google searches found hits that mentioned both "Taliban" and "copyright" - but none of those hits was more recent than their recent resumption of power. So, I continue to think this was just wishful thinking. Geo Swan (talk) 01:32, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the update. Lax enforcement is not a reason to suspend the idea of Afghan copyright lest we risk reusers being sued or arrested if the Taliban decides to enforce copyrights against any use of women's artwork or music. Copyrights were originally conceived as means for governments to control information and the Taliban may well decide to selectively use them to suppress information they don't want and declaring Afghan works to be public domain when Afghanistan is still under Berne would erode trust in Commons. We should only consider Afghan works to be public domain if Afghanistan takes affirmative steps to undo Berne, not passive ones like lack of enforcement. Abzeronow (talk) 17:42, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I agree with that. As I said on my talk page, there are a lot of countries were IP rights are not properly enforced. Where do we draw the line?

And more than the situation in Afghanistan itself, we should respect IP rights of Afghan authors. What would we do if one of them sue a reuser outside of Afghanistan because s/he uses a file hosted on Commons? This is far to be a hypothetical situation. Yann (talk) 18:25, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Photographs by Studio Harcourt after 1991

Hi Abzeronow, I just noticed that you restored last month all the files on this DR. The files doesn't have any new VRT and I couldn't find any related entry in UDR. Could you point out the reason of the restoration? Thanks. Günther Frager (talk) 14:31, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

@Günther Frager: thanks for bringing this to my attention. Due to an error with mass process on an unrelated DR, I had accidentally deleted over 500 Studio Harcourt files that I had not wished to delete, so I mass undeleted all that were listed and had accidentally restored a few that I shouldn't have. I've redeleted the files from that DR as I had not intended to restore those. Abzeronow (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Overwriting of File:Beatles timeline.png

Do I have a go or no-go for overwriting of File:Beatles timeline.png? I would suggest you let me do it, and if it's not acceptable (which I doubt) it could be undone ! Thanks. JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 17:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

I realize I have a personal bias against the 1995 and 2023 singles are Beatles songs. I am willing to hear arguments that I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the enwiki consensus for the Beatles is that they were active from 1960 to 1970. Overwrites are supposed to avoid controversy. You are within your full rights to create your own file with the 1995 and 2023 singles, that is your prerogative. So it's more like I'm leaning no but I can be persuaded to change my mind. Abzeronow (talk) 19:10, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

If the surviving Beatles would have written new songs without the input of Lennon, even though some songs during their active carreer were done without him, I would agree with you. But I feel that the fact that they complicated their jobs to use demos of their departed friend, show that they truly wanted a reunion that could never happen. Now and Then is to my ears a great Beatles song and the other two will be redone soon (according to Dhani Harrison, Free as a Bird is already remixed). I do not think that this timeline will be worse to wear if we tack three songs in the end. I did fix a few other places where the graph was weird. Again, allow the overwrite and examine my changes and if the reunion songs do not pass muster, I could remove them later. It would be a shame though. Thanks for your input. JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 02:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

I'll let you know tomorrow on the OWR page if I do decide to grant your request (I want to wait another day to see if the other user will post or not), I am more inclined to support than I was yesterday. Abzeronow (talk) 17:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Abzeronow, hope to hear from you soon. JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 19:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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Request about deleted Washington DC maps

Can you please send me my deleted files of WMATA Metrobus Route Map March 12, 1995 as soon as possible? I paid lots of money and have lost the copy of the map so I would like to download these for my own reference. The files were uploaded as WMATA Metrobus Route Map Part 1-47.jpg. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor of Directions (talk • contribs) 19:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

College Basketball NCAA Divisions and NAIA

Hi Abzeronow, I hope you are doing well and I appreciate your college basketball contributions. I just wanted to say that we've upgraded the categories for men's and women's college basketball by NCAA Divisions I, II and III and also by NAIA teams instead of the more generic category, Category:College men's basketball teams in the United States.

- NAIA men's basketball teams (9 C)
- NCAA Division I men's basketball teams (258 C)
- NCAA Division II men's basketball teams (18 C)
- NCAA Division III men's basketball teams (8 C)

Awesome job adding both men's and women's individual teams, but please categorize by the level of each team. I appreciate all you do and I wish you well. All good and take care. Spatms (talk) 09:24, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

OK, I'll try to keep that in mind. I have tried to fill in some of the gaps as far as college basketball in the 1920s as I come across media from the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Boston Globe, the Des Moines Public Register, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Detroit Free Press, the Atlanta Journal and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch as I come across them (obviously the Mountain West and the Pacific Coast gets relatively less coverage but I have to decided to try to limit the newspapers I focus on. I might eventually decide to substitute the Tennessean for a different newspaper although I don't know what I'd decide there since much of the 1920s professional sports were concentrated on the East Coast and the Midwest, with the NHL also including two Montreal teams, Ottawa and Toronto.) Abzeronow (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Request for AWB use

Hi Abzeronow. I see you're active on Commons:Requests for rights. Please could you review my request for use of AWB? I assume the silence means I'm not a straightforward case, but it would be good to have some feedback for next time. If you're not the right person, please suggest someone else. Many thanks --Northernhenge (talk) 11:38, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

File:Obvodny kanal Embankment at west from Novo-Kamenny bridge.jpg

I just got to somewhere I have Internet access for the first time in about 30 hours (I'm traveling). For File:Obvodny kanal Embankment at west from Novo-Kamenny bridge.jpg, I would of course have fulfilled Kaganer's request if I'd been in a place to do so. I will also hide his name in the edit history, since I take it he does not want to be identified with this image. I assume it is no problem that he is linked here in discussion, since he made an on-wiki request on my user talk page. - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I had wanted to make sure that Kaganer couldn't see their name with the image (I also removed their username from the initial edit in history). I have no problem having their name linked in this discussion. Abzeronow (talk) 23:21, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

All is ok, thanks all. --Kaganer (talk) 12:58, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:19141004 marcia a Folusz.jpg

Hi, This is a map of Ukraine, so I don't see why German law would be relevant. Either we apply modern Ukraine law, but {{PD-RusEmpire}} should also be OK. Even assuming Austria-Hungary, I don't see any way this could still be under a copyright. @Rosenzweig: . Yann (talk) 09:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Actually a lot of this map is of what is now Poland, and in 1914 it has places that were part of the Habsburg lands of the Polish partition. It has some Polish diacritics so it's possible the cartographer was Polish, but Austria-Hungary encompassed many European lands including parts of Ukraine. I'm still not comfortable assuming this is an anonymous work because 1.) we don't know where this was published. Wien? Budapest? Praha? Krakow? 2.) Most maps were not anonymous, they usually had some sort of credit somewhere, since this is probably only part of a bigger map. We also don't have a reliable source to tell us that there was a search to find the author or if the author is credited in a section elsewhere. Given that this uploader also plagiarized a OSM map (which I deleted as a copyvio), we probably can't count on them telling us if this had a known author or not. Abzeronow (talk) 21:44, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Deletion request

I don't understand the result of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cascata di Terni (Thomas Patch, 1745, Palazzo Montani, Terni).jpg. Why does the source matter when both are scans of a public domain work? Especially considering the one nominated for deletion is objectively lower quality (it doesn't show the entire painting, there's a visible artifact in the corner showing it's from a book, and the colours are far more orange than the actual painting). I don't understand why neither having sources matters here. Suntooooth (talk) 20:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I'd rather not delete a scan from a book which is valid as another version of the painting when we don't have an authoritative source on the painting. Yes, the painting would appear to be the most true representation of it since it is a painting, but the book copy could have been taken from an unrestored version of the painting that had color distortions due to age. Abzeronow (talk) 21:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. In the future, it may be useful to include this sort of reasoning in the closing message of the deletion discussion (instead of just "neither have a source"), so that there's less confusion. Suntooooth (talk) 21:40, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

File:HH Damals – Karl Sieveking.jpg

Hi, I think it is better to wait for 24 hours after the last comment in undeletion requests before closing, specially for cases not so clear cut. Thanks, Yann (talk) 19:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

It felt clear cut to me, Emil Bieber was the photographer and he died in 1962. If the uploader wants a local version on enwiki, I could upload a local version for them until 2033 since it is public domain in the US and enwiki only cares about US copyright law. Abzeronow (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

It is far from obvious that Emil Bieber was the photographer and/or the copyright holder. That's the point of the whole discussion. Yann (talk) 08:34, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

Rosenzweig laid out the case convincingly. Occam's Razor says that Emil Bieber is the copyright holder, he was the main photographer of the Hamburg studio, and was the most likely to take a celebrity's photograph. Pre-1995 German works cannot be anonymous and there is no evidence that the older photographer or some other employee of Bieber's took the photograph. When there is ambiguity between an older and a younger photographer, COM:PCP would have us assume it was the younger one. PD-old-assumed would only kick in after 2033 for this photograph anyway, so the photograph cannot be restored on Commons now. I am willing to locally upload it to enwiki if needed. Abzeronow (talk) 17:38, 9 April 2025 (UTC)